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we produce in conjunction with bloomberg politics. >> donald trump was interrupted at a rally in misery -- in missouri. and another trump event is coming up shortly, folks are already in the room for that. >> there are hundreds, maybe even thousands of protesters on hand. the security does not have a handle on the situation here. >> tonight's rally will be postponed until another day. thank you very much. peace.ase go in
>> this is becoming a violet, there is pushing and shoving going on inside this arena. this is total chaos. donald trump joins me live on the phone. you believe you did -- you do not believe you have done anything to create a town where this would be encouraged. hurt at ours been rallies. >> the regret saying any of those things about punching protesters? >> i do not regret it at all, we have had success with people. it is a love fest. >> you have no regrets about anything you have said? >> we have had great success and
frankly i think we did a good job tonight. i think a lot of people are giving us a lot of credit. hillary clinton: i want to say a few words about what happened in chicago last night. >> donald trump has created a toxic environment. the encouragement of violence and aggression is not only wrong, but dangerous. donald trump has to be loud and clear and tell his supporters that violence at rallies is not what america is tout and two and it -- and end it. unlike donald trump, i do not
ask people in the audience to an -- to punch them in the face. donald trump: i have to do it myself -- and to think i had such an easy life, what do i need this or? >> today in hickory, north carolina, trump appeared with chris christie and insisted that the coverage of the rallies was getting blown out of proportion. donald trump: dino many people have gotten hurt? i think they sickly none, maybe somebody got hit wants. things are soe incredible, it is a movement and
a love fest and we love each other and we will do so well. i am a peaceloving person. we love peace. >> at another event later in the day, sarah palin blamed the protesters and the mainstream media. sarah palin: what we do not have petty,r is all of the stuff that is been going on with "protesters." >> amazing how much this is dominating every piece of coverage for the year. is donald trump helped or hurt? >> i do not know whether any of this will hurt him in terms of his supporters. i know that to the extent there is an anti-trump movement, this
is a galvanizing moment. there are many republicans who have thought donald trump would be -- would split the party in various ways. i think a lot of establishment republicans watching on friday, seeing how he has reacted, not only not apologizing but in sometimes inciting things to a greater degree. they may not be able to stop him that if there is a way, there are a lot of republicans saying we do not want a nominee who will lose the general election and insight this kind of violence in the street. --i think it will make him make it more likely that john kasich will when ohio. i think it will likely that the establishment will try to take the nomination away from him. john: i feel like for a lot of casual viewers, they already did
not want trump but there is a sense of urgency now that was having seenfore, just the utter chaos and the way donald trump was not backing away or -- mark: i think people will still take ted cruz because donald trump behaved over the weekend and on the sunday shows, he been finesse.ehaved with no he basically said i bear no responsibility. just heard the bell but he has suggested his supporters should go to bernie sanders rallies and potentially cause trouble. he talked about how he might pay the legal bills for the guy who suck or punched the protester. just the wrong thing to do. we're just been talking about all of them.
john kasich said donald trump is creating a toxic atmosphere. stokingbio says he is anger for political gain. he told me at the press that his party's front runner has created an environment that encourages nastiness. paul ryan said today that candidates must rest -- take responsibility for unrest. with this in the right way, not just in terms of the ethical right thing but also in terms of ways that may give them political edge? mark: i do not think marco will find a way to win florida. he also has just been agonizing over how to react. john kasich has reacted consistently and i think it fits with his brand. have allhink they
handled it pretty well. i think ted cruz benefits more, i think he is more likely to be the nominee because he has more delicates. -- delegates. for establishment republicans who are trying to get comfortable with the idea of ted cruz, he did a lot this weekend to make them think he is rising to the situation -- to the occasion. mark: it all depends on how much this stuff goes on. i do not know why he would not call the young man who was punched in the face, and say i hope your ok. john: he does not seem to have a fingertip feel for the situation . he does for his supporters but not for other audiences. he is not doing anything to make them more comfortable. mark: there was a chance before that if he swept every state a
trump fall short of the stilltion, he will probably have more delegates than anyone else. that means there is the opportunity for a long con. here to lay out the plan that would be a danny ocean style one, to walk us there how this could happen. it is all about the delegates, who they are, and their freedom to maybe switch vote. but start with the month we are in now, even primaries and place,s are still taking what has happened in this. you call the hunt. >> we would talk about who won how many delegates. the people who go to cleveland to fill the roles for their state have yet to be decided.
there is a shadow campaign going on and a hunt to put your slots.ts in last saturday, iowa was having their county conventions, they were selecting people who had been elected the night of the iowa caucus. those people will go to the convention. it is entirely possible, the goal for these other campaigns is, they want to find states where donald trump may be won the majority of delegates but did not get those. >> typically, delegates the vast majority bound on the first ballot, but it donald trump does not get a majority on the first alec, many of the delegates become free agents and their loyalty to trump become nonexistent. things youe other vote on besides the nomination
that will have a real impact. john: now we move onto the next phase, we move to the sell. who is getting sold? >> there is a saying going around that you cannot have a brokered convention because there are no brokers. thehere is a governor in state, often that person basically runs the state party. you look at a state like south carolina. trump one all 50 delegates and yet, the people who are getting selected to be the drop -- the donald trump delegates at the , the people who will beep there are more likely to be live -- loyal to nikki haley or someone else. like --as candidates can trump candidates take over
those -- but -->> let's talk about may and the deal. >> what is remarkable is how acceptable practices that we would normally think of as improper are. it is not clear to me that you could actually be prevented from -- from offering someone cash for their boat. -- for their vote. john: then we get to june which is about the switch. >> questions about who can be entered into nomination. some of these irregularities that took place, that could be grounds to challenge the results in nevada, trumps state. if you want to knock nevada out, you will need to win a vote in the contest committee. >> would you need a majority of
the total delegates? >> in the past, there have been role changes that make it impossible for the delegates from this state's who are being questioned to even vote. you just need a majority from people of non-trump states. >> after laying all this groundwork they would do what question mark -- do what? >> you would start to see the nominations start to look like trojan horses. all of a sudden, the 50 delegates that donald trump was counting on end up going to ted cruz, or paul ryan or whoever it is. basically, the speaker and the parliamentarian can do whatever they want. we saw the call to avoid -- call to voice vote.
's have it.he i to use the rules to a sure does not get the nomination, they can do it. -- issually happens in you have a presumptive nominee and they get control, if not, decide.chairman gets to if you need to maintain order in the hall, those were not be so honorary. reported this piece, it is incredibly complicated. how many people actually understand the whole thing? who has all of this in their heads or will this just be piecemeal chaos? >> i think it will be piecemeal chaos. people, ivery few
have to's a republican lawyers who have been through this. folks went through a dry run of this. ginsberg,folks, ben kenny barber who are incredible -- incredibly useful now. need some form of coordination and the campaigns are just getting and now -- just getting around. 11" heist a "ocean's without danny ocean. >> up next, president obama's nomination for the supreme court. : not only one of america's sharpest legal minds but someone who brings to his work a spirit of decency, modesty, integrity,
evenhandedness, and excellence. these qualities and his long commitment to public service have earned him the respect and admiration of leaders on both sides of the aisle. he will ultimately bring that same character to bear on the supreme court, an institution in which he is uniquely prepared to serve immediately. today, i am nominating chief judge, merrick brian garland to join the supreme court. [applause]
ron i will start with you. you have known a merrick garland for a long time, and you are making the claim i believe, that one does not here often, this is a pick free of politics. seriously? : he has no big political following, he is not a historic first of this or that, he was the best nominee that president obama put forward. i think that makes the case particularly compelling because republicans cannot argue that the president did this for any political advantage. they cannot argue anything then this is a person who is a great jurist, a great lore -- a great lawyer, a great person. pick freeeems to me a of politics is still a pic of
politics. --looks like you can see that those who wanted him to make the more liberal choice, somebody younger, someone who might be there longer. he did not do that in part because he got a message from back channelsia that they would probably move this nomination after the presidential election. once you get that concession, you can start to work on other concessions. they are going to work very hard to break down this idea that there should not be a hearing or a vote prior to the election and the president was made a nomination in march. >> you are a student of these fossils.
-- of these tussles. the big thing will be if he gets a hearing. i think a lot of strategists say he has a very good chance of being confirmed. what he think flipped senator bradley? >> i think it is an instrumental process. some republicans are already saying they will meet with judge garland, and once they do others will. i think it will be hard to say no to a hearing. i understand we are a polarized country, and there are a lot of politics out there, but it is a fair country and someone who is as distinguished and qualified is not even get it herein, it will rub people as unfair and wrong. this whole thing is different once there is an actual nominee, , you seesee merrick
the tape the white house released of him telling his life story. i think it will be hard to say he does not even get a hearing. it has to flip mcconnell and that is a harder proposition. is a complete revolution, unless they think this becomes a major electoral issue, and i still have a hard time believing it is ever a major electoral issue. and the whiteess house did not just release tape of merrick garland talking about being a judge, also tape of him at essentially ground zero at the oklahoma city bombing and the president talked about that at his remarks. thecould see, when president was talking, you could
see that was the moment when judge garland actually almost lost his composure. he feels passionately about being somebody to protect victims and convict the guilty and he is a judge but he was a prosecutor all of his life and they will ride that horse to town, you can be sure of that. john: there are a couple of republicans we have heard today that have broken with senator collins, andsan others. are those meaningful at all, that they do not fall behind mcconnell's posture right now? : kelly is in a very tough election race, susan collins was from the beginning, who thought you ought to meet with someone who was nominated. make any pledges about a hearing or no hearing.
to keepl has been able his troops and line almost unanimously. on the question of the hearing. hearing and the nominee does well, then why not whata vote, and that is they really do not want to have. you can see mcconnell's point of view but the optics are not great, you can tell that in all of the public opinion polls. i do not think there is any public opinion polls in which people think this is a great position. ron: i do not think the three who said they would meet with him would be the last three. i think we'll just keep growing. more republicans will meet with the judge garland, i think it will be surprising good news in the next couple of days. john: we will get to see whether
that infuriates me because i know your record. how do you feel about that label? >> if they are being complementary, i like it. if they are not, then i do not. i do not care about shaking things up as long as i am on the right track. if i am on the wrong track, i have to have friends and smart people telling me i am wrong. amm willing to listen, but i an unorthodox political figure. >> that was john kasich today in a town hall outside of philadelphia. joining us today is the brand-new kasich advisor, charlie black. how youthe plan for will get john kasich to be the republican nominee? charlie: nobody has ever seen anything like this since the democrats in the 1920's. he will win some primaries and
the midwest and northeast and maybe even california. i think donald trump will have about 40% of the delegates, ted cruz will have about 25%, and the rest will be john kasich delegates or even marco rubio delegates. as you know, after the first and second ballot, all delegates are free agents did -- free agents. you are conceding that john kasich will never be able to beat the -- be the nominee? it is possible for donald trump to get majority of the delegates? charlie: he would have to get 60% of the remaining, i think you will and up with about 40% and ted cruz will have about 25%, he will be disciplined -- who will be disciplined with
sticking with him. john kasich will have as good a is theas anybody, he most qualified and when you get to the convention, those people care about electability. the thing i am having trouble following is the notion it is a slam dunk that john kasich will win states. giving the lack of an zusi as him, despite your move in the last 24 hours, how is it that he is going to win states? charlie: i think he is now in the spotlight for the first time. look at states in the midwest, the northeast, new york, pennsylvania, maryland, delaware, indiana. those kinds of states, the more mainstream conservative has the best chance. confident he is going to win a few more states.
if he doesn't, maybe my theory is not good but the -- but donald trump. not go to the convention with the jordy. -- with the majority. john: do you think donald trump will say no more debates and does that hurt john kasich's case of getting in the arena? would rather have debates, that would give john a good chance for good exposure and show the contrast between his positive approach and the gutter attacks of donald trump. he may have decided not to do debates but when he sees he is not winning, he may go back to it. john: how long have you been a john kasich supporter? charlie: he has been a friend of mine his whole adult life. or 6is race, there were 5 candidates who i was personal friends with so i sat it out
until it narrowed down to one. last night, i told john a day or marco lost, ior was with him. john: if there is anything of the republican establishment, you would be a charter member of it? ofrlie: i sent the majority my adult life in the trenches of electing. john: why is it that john kasich who is extraordinarily popular, why is it that that guy has seen so little support from fellow members of your club, up until it even now, not very much. even with the people who are come over. as donald trump gained strength, and john kasich did not, where have you all been? he started late and did
not spend a lot of time around washington, but a lot of people signed up early especially for marco rubio. will see apen, you lot more donors and more party leaders coming to support john kasich. what matters is the people out in the field in the primaries, boating in the states and the 24 hundred people will be delegates and who at some point will be free agents. is that a state where you think john kasich could finish first or second? finish: i think he could first or second, he is in pennsylvania today which is another good opportunity for him, it is actually his native state. trumpn new york, donald is not very popular want to get outside of manhattan or queens. there are a lot of states where john will have a chance to pick up delegates.
mark: do you suspect in the next round of the link that you will start to see john kasich get out of the teens and into the 20's or 30's in places? charlie: i think the more today's he gets, nominate -- coverage is difficult because of the fake supreme court nominee, but his nationals will improve. the end,you think, in if donald trump were to become the republican nominee, what are the various forms of damage that would inflict on the party? do you think there is more than he would lose to hillary clinton? charlie: since he has been in the race he has always been behind hillary clinton. points, thaty 10 means in the blue states where we are trying to defend senate seats, we would probably lose.
we would probably lose some house seats. is, a bunch of republicans stay home if they do not believe in the nominee. john: but not an existential threat to the party? charlie: no, the party will be here, i do not think donald trump will be dominating the party win or lose. we will be right back from some of our best interviews from the week that was.
i have a feeling maybe the expectations and the reality are somewhat different. ken: a good estimate about what political ad spending would be was about 2.4 billion dollars, about 74% on broadcast. some -- some people had that even higher. of that overall number, about that, even more than should be on the presidential race. thatat we have seen so far $369 million, more or less than it should be? on the one hand, it is a little bit more. if you look back to 2008 or
2012, that is way more money than was spent on tv in those races. there are a couple of factors that show the pace slowing. the great majority of the states, was in three new hampshire, iowa, and south carolina. the pace slowed after that. the majority spenders on the republican side, who spent over $75 million and over $50 million with conservative solution projects, were the super pacs of jeb bush and marco rubio who are not in the race anymore. it seems higher, but there are some danger signs and of course, there is the trump affect. >> let's talk about the trump affected what we like to call eet 16.suite -- unsw
if he is the nominee in the general election, what is the danger for the tv stations that tend to make a lot of money if he continues to earn free media and not on tv? love the highives ratings that donald trump generates, but they are concerned about what he could do to the as spend. spend. the groups, as we talked about, pay three or more times as much of that as the candidates and spent a ton of money on political advertising, whether they sit out the presidential race. those are two real possible down factors, donald trump himself
will not spend a lot, and there were not be a lot of republican groups coming to bat for trump. i will hedge a little bit here, if donald trump changes how the 2016 elections look, that could increase spending in other races. maybe donald trump makes some states competitive that were not competitive before. trump makesld senate races and house races more competitive than we would of theought, so all super pacs and groups who would have spent big money are now spending that money on house seats and senate seats. to be au do not have big basketball fan to know the worst thing you could do is an air ball. ball inay air ball, air the games. you have come to the conclusion that the anti-trump spending is an air ball.
it is difficult to do this in real time and it is always much more fun to be the couch coach than the real coach and say how the shots should have gone in, but i do think it was a bit of an air ball. about $80 million has been spent against donald trump and when you measure that with the free media he has gotten, is not a ton. what is more complex thing is, over half of the anti-trump spending happened after march 1, after super tuesday. they have done it when lots of the elections had already happened. lots of the delegates had already been selected. florida, a lot was made of the $8 million that was spent in the last week against donald trump. $8 million isn't really a lot of 50% of floridat
republican voters voted early so all of the money was spent when half of the florida republican primary electorate had already voted. ad that was have an out that has women reading quotes, inflammatory quotes from donald trump. and it 60 second ad seems powerful but it started airing on this past tuesday, march 15, not only after super tuesday but after florida, north missouri illinois, and were done. john: an air ball that came after the buzzer. thank you for that great segment.
>> had donald trump one of the ohio primary last night, there would be very few things blocking his path. but he did not win ohio and at least one thing stands in his way. that would be john kasich, who was the only presidential candidate out on the trail today. i covered his town hall at villanova university. john kasich did not talk at all in his remarks about donald trump by name, but he did talk about a lot of other stuff. john kasich: maybe i should tell you a little story. march madness, this wall street bank, cupcake, i do not mean political gibberish here. the mailman and the mailman's
wife, we went from the smaller taranto source wrecks to the big one. roommates, that is where superman changed his close. his clothing. ben & jerry's free for one whole year. you lift your whole life? not yet. president nixon. daddy, can you give us more snow days? why are you asking me? life is pretty simple when you keep it simple, sincerely, john kasich. mark: oh what a week, thank you for watching this edition of the best of "with all due respect." remember, if you are in washington, and d.c. -- washington, d.c. you can catch us.